In this episode, Jonathan Tiernan (Education Delegate for the Irish Jesuits and their Network of 5 secondary schools and 3 primary schools), discusses the contents of his recently published book which he co-authored with Dr Sean McGraw (Boston College) titled The Politics of Irish Primary Education: Reform in an Era of Secularisation. Jonathan considers the political landscape of Irish Primary education, on-going debates and the potential for a citizen's assembly on the role of religion (i.e. Catholic Church) in education and healthcare, and what future reform of the primary education sector might look like.