Fran chats to Sara about all things living and learning without school, including the ways we see children, how we respect consent when things need to get done, "non-negotiable", building community and of course the every-present question of: how will they learn if we don't force them? ;)

Sara is a Mum of four girls from Brisbane, Australia. Her children have never been to school and instead live an unschooling life where they live and learn naturally from the world around them, with her help and support. Sara started sharing her family's experience with unschooling, as well as other thoughts on parenting and children's rights, 8 years ago on her blog, 'Happiness is Here'. Her goal was to spread the word about this alternative lifestyle and show people it was an awesome way to educate children, and that there are more cohesive and respectful ways to live with children. Happiness is Here continues to gain many new readers daily, and is now the largest unschooling blog in the world.

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