In this powerful conversation, Dr. Glenn and Phyllis talk with Paul and Hannah McClure—musicians, parents, and certified Connection Codes coaches—about the journey of learning to process emotions instead of drowning in them. The McClures share openly about walking through miscarriage, facing parenting challenges, and breaking free from long seasons of disconnection. They describe how simple tools like the Core Emotion Wheel gave them language for their feelings, transformed their marriage, and reshaped the way they connect as a family. This episode is an invitation to slow down, honor what you feel, and discover how vulnerability can lead to lasting healing and deeper relationships.Chapters:
00:00:00 – Welcome to the Connection Codes Podcast
00:00:57 – Meet Paul & Hannah
00:01:34 – Story of meeting as teens and family background
00:02:41 – Discovery of the program in 2020 through webinars
00:03:15 – How the tools helped process miscarriage
00:04:44 – Reflection on “choose joy” culture and parenting impact
00:05:31 – Childhood experience of suppressing emotions
00:07:23 – Demonstration of the Core Emotion Wheel
00:09:27 – Feelings of anger, guilt, and loneliness in friendships
00:11:16 – Fear about an album release and hurt from a trip
00:13:00 – Key victories and struggles with the tools
00:14:23 – Resolving conflict in Hawaii by naming hurt
00:17:30 – How minutes of processing prevent days of disconnect
00:19:51 – Example of using the wheel during a cancer diagnosis
00:25:00 – Motivation for becoming coaches
00:27:18 – Coaching removed the pressure of having all the answers
00:30:04 – How unprocessed joy can lead to poor choices
00:32:04 – The wheel as a manual for navigating trauma
00:37:29 – Fear of drowning in emotions
00:40:10 – Seeing past anger to identify underlying hurt
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