Marco packages powerful barbs in (slightly) softened academic polish. It makes his writing and speaking fun to consume and hard to forget. Do check out his Substack https://substack.com/@navarrogenie  Looking forward to hearing what you think! Thanks again! AI summary: Special guest Dr. Marco Navarro-Genie, VP of Research at Frontier Center for Public Policy and founding president of the Haultain Research Institute, delves deep into Canadian political thought and identity. The conversation spans topics including Red Toryism, Michael Oakeshott, Mark Carney's political influence, and the evolving notions of conservatism. Dr. Navarro-Genie also critiques the idea of rationalism in politics and touches on the impact of technology and progressivism on modern society. Throughout, the episode offers insights into the complexities of Canadian national identity and the challenges facing conservatism today. 00:00 Introduction and Opening Thoughts 00:17 The Conservative Disposition 01:45 Guest Introduction: Dr. Marco Navarro Genie 02:21 Discussion on Red Toryism 02:55 Fragment Theory and Canadian Identity 17:24 Critique of Mark Carney 20:01 Defending Michael Oakeshott 25:40 Rationalism in Politics 34:32 Exploring Rationalism and Metaphysical Abstractions 35:34 The Importance of Experience in Politics 40:40 The Role of Government According to Oakeshott 42:18 Debating Oakeshott's Neutrality and Proceduralism 49:33 Understanding Leo Strauss and His Influence 01:00:58 The Future of Conservatism and Society 01:06:37 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections