Danielle Krage interviews Joanna Penn. Joanna is an award-nominated New York Times and USA Today bestselling author with more than 40 books across multiple genres – non-fiction and fiction (under J.F.Penn). Joanna is also a podcaster, international speaker, and award-winning creative entrepreneur. This conversation dives into Joanna’s recent book, ‘Writing the Shadow: Turn Your Inner Darkness into Words’. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 01:38 Understanding the Shadow 05:11 Embracing Your Weirdness 07:52 Pushing Boundaries in Writing 09:26 Exploring Family and Relationships 11:17 The Shadow in Relationships and Writing 15:09 Continuing Journey of Integration 19:24 Percolating the Shadow into Writing 21:27 Exploring the Shadow in Characters 23:26 The Shadow in Professional Lives 26:11 Tackling Fear and Judgment 27:07 Unpublished Work and Building an Author Platform 29:10 Using Email Lists for Fiction 31:49 Showing Elements of Yourself as a Creator 33:51 Examples of Memorable Characters and Their Shadows 38:12 Where to Find More About Joanna's Work   You can find Joanna’s work here: https://www.thecreativepenn.com/the-creative-penn-podcast-for-authors https://www.youtube.com/@thecreativepenn https://jfpenn.com https://www.thecreativepenn.com/writing-the-shadow   You can find the transcript at: https://comedymasterclass.com   And Danielle’s socials here: https://twitter.com/daniellekrage https://www.instagram.com/dekrage https://bsky.app/profile/daniellekrage.bsky.social