In this calm, 15-minute conversation, Shilz and Djenys speak plainly about suicide—how it touches real people, families, and communities, and why the topic is so often silenced in Black households. This is not a headline; it’s everyday life. Shilz reflects on losses close to home and the unanswered questions they leave behind. Together, the hosts unpick the idea that suicide equals weakness, and centre what it more often signals: unmanaged pain and untreated mental-health struggles.
They explore why “just pray about it” can’t replace open dialogue, therapy, or medical care—and how faith and professional support can sit side by side. The episode also walks through risk factors and warning signs to notice with care:
Mental-health conditions (depression, bipolar disorder, anxiety, trauma)
Prolonged stress (relationship breakdown, bullying, financial strain)
Substance misuse and chronic physical pain
Historical/environmental factors (family history, abuse, exposure to suicide)
The heart of the message is practical and compassionate: many people don’t want to die—they want the pain to stop. Check in, listen beyond “I’m fine,” and help normalise getting support.
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Content note & support
This episode discusses suicide. If you are thinking about suicide or worried you might act on thoughts of self-harm, seek immediate help. In the UK:
Samaritans: 116 123 (free, 24/7)
NHS: 111 (urgent care)
Shout: text SHOUT to 85258 (24/7 text support)
If you’re outside the UK, please contact your local emergency number or a crisis hotline in your country. You are not alone.