Jordan gets on the blower with Manawatū Turbo and Crusaders, Brett Cameron. The first five talks about what life is like in Japan before rolling into where footy started for him (07:32).

He went on talk to about what led to him shifting to Christchurch after high school (13:46) and what he was told to work on in order to break through (22:08). He made a mention of how as he progressed through the ranks that he didn't seem to get to overwhelmed in the big moments (34:42), which included his call up to the All Blacks in 2018 (37:29). 

After a meteoric rise he was somewhat humbled with a lack of game time and missed opportunities the following year. Cameron shares the good and the bad that came with backing up Richie Mo'unga (47:03) before touching on what prompted his move to Palmerston North.

Like all of Jordan's interviews he asks about his game-day routine (56:45) and rounds off the pod with "Ten in the Bin".

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