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CoBB | Conversations on the Business of Brands
Sudeep Chawla & Sharavana Raghavan
153 episodes
1 day ago
On the show, the hosts, Sudeep Chawla & Sharavana Raghavan, leverage their collective industry experience of over 30 years to deconstruct and simplify aspects of brand and marketing strategies to enable emerging businesses to build and serve remarkable brands. In each episode, the hosts take turns interviewing each other, on a specific topic of their choice. Listeners will see their passion for brands, brand strategies and marketing fill the conversations in the form of candour, debates and even disagreements at times.
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On the show, the hosts, Sudeep Chawla & Sharavana Raghavan, leverage their collective industry experience of over 30 years to deconstruct and simplify aspects of brand and marketing strategies to enable emerging businesses to build and serve remarkable brands. In each episode, the hosts take turns interviewing each other, on a specific topic of their choice. Listeners will see their passion for brands, brand strategies and marketing fill the conversations in the form of candour, debates and even disagreements at times.
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136) Micro Marketing: How B2B2C Brands Train The Best Marketers
CoBB | Conversations on the Business of Brands
26 minutes 39 seconds
5 months ago
136) Micro Marketing: How B2B2C Brands Train The Best Marketers

In this episode, hosts Sharavana Raghavan and Sudeep Chawla explore a question many young marketers are asking today. How can you learn, grow, and make an impact when your organisation limits experimentation and the economy feels slow?

Sudeep offers an unexpected answer: B2B2C categories. Often seen as unglamorous and rigid, industries like paints, adhesives, waterproofing, and pipes actually offer a goldmine of learning opportunities. With high regional diversity, complex intermediary networks, and under-researched end-users, these sectors challenge marketers to think deeply, act locally, and execute precisely.

If you’re a marketer wondering where the real action is, this episode will surprise and inspire you.


DISCUSSION FLOW

They discuss

Why B2B2C is a misunderstood space

Most marketers assume it’s all sales and no brand, but Sudeep reveals how intermediaries like plumbers and contractors actually shape consumer choice and trust


How regional practices create micro markets

From Punjab’s mud phaska roofs to Kerala’s truss constructions, India’s geography and culture create unique user behaviours and needs


What makes marketing in B2B2C a learning playground

With every town acting like a unique market, brand managers get infinite chances to experiment, observe, and refine their craft — if they’re willing to put in the work


The role of intellectual humility in marketing

Sudeep explains why empathy and humility are critical when working with blue-collar influencers, people marketers often overlook but must learn to understand


Three enablers of deep marketing learning

1. Look beyond the lack of glamour

2. Stay humble and open to learning from all

3. Work under marketing leaders who create frameworks and feedback loops


KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • B2B2C categories are rich in insight, diversity, and marketing opportunity — not just sales operations
  • Micro marketing is a powerful model for building core marketing capabilities
  • The most impactful learning comes from observation, empathy, and iteration — not just from campaigns
  • Great marketers thrive where others don’t even bother to look


QUOTES

“There’s no one India. There are many Indias. And each one teaches you something different”

“Micro markets are not small markets. They’re marketing labs”

“You’re not your brand’s consumer. And in B2B2C, you can’t even pretend to be”

“If you want to learn fast, put in the hard yards where others don’t”


As always, send your feedback and topic suggestions to mail@cobbcast.net!

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CREDITS

Album Art & Design by ting.in

Voiceovers by Anjale Stephanos

Music from Zapsplat.com

CoBB | Conversations on the Business of Brands
On the show, the hosts, Sudeep Chawla & Sharavana Raghavan, leverage their collective industry experience of over 30 years to deconstruct and simplify aspects of brand and marketing strategies to enable emerging businesses to build and serve remarkable brands. In each episode, the hosts take turns interviewing each other, on a specific topic of their choice. Listeners will see their passion for brands, brand strategies and marketing fill the conversations in the form of candour, debates and even disagreements at times.