A CMO Confidential Interview with Dwight Hutchins, Senior Managing Director of Boston Consulting Group (BCG) and a Northwestern Adjunct Professor, previously Managing Director at Accenture focused on Consumer Products, Health Care and Public Service. Dwight shares his thinking on why marketers should be prepared to reduce expenses and shift resources into a re-imagined future versus incrementally evolving spend and structure. Key topics include: his belief that the complexity of marketing has resulted in many instances of wasted spending; the importance of "unaided first brand response;" why it's important to be "ahead of the expense reduction game;" and how to focus on working versus non-working dollars. Tune in to hear how about reducing $1B in spend to fund new initiatives and a "wild west" story about a battery on-pack promotion. The Fine Art of Reducing Marketing Expense in an AI World This week on CMO Confidential, Mike Linton sits down with Dwight Hutchins—Senior Partner & Managing Director at Boston Consulting Group and adjunct professor at Northwestern—to tackle the question every CMO hears from the CFO: “Keep the top line growing… and cut your budget.” Dwight explains how to find waste without hurting performance, where AI actually improves efficiency (and where it doesn’t), how to test into cuts with confidence, and why many brands still miss “sufficiency” by spreading spend like peanut butter. We dig into frequency capping, working vs. non-working ratios, zero-based budgeting (used sanely), org design, insource vs. outsource, and a real-world case where a company freed up billions and redeployed it to growth channels. Stay for his “Wild West” in-store marketing story—complete with batteries taped to milk. Sponsored by Typeface — the AI-native, agentic marketing platform that turns one idea into thousands of on-brand assets across channels, safely integrated with your MarTech stack. See how leaders like ASICS and Microsoft scale personalized content with Typeface. ⸻ ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 – Intro & guest: Dwight Hutchins (BCG) 02:05 – The market reality: uncertainty, shifting buyer values 06:10 – CFO pressure: “grow and cut” in the same breath 09:20 – AI spend vs. payoff: recalibrating expectations 12:25 – Media fragmentation & the “peanut butter” budget problem 15:55 – Where AI helps most: measurement, targeting, creative ops 19:10 – Forensic cuts case study: freeing up massive dollars 23:10 – Finding waste: frequency caps, ad length, quality controls 27:05 – “First Fast Response”: demand spaces & brand power 30:20 – Sufficiency & focus: stop starving campaigns 33:05 – Working vs. non-working: ratios that actually move results 35:20 – Zero-based budgeting (in moderation, with data) 37:10 – Org & ops: redesigning execution, in/outsourcing lines 38:55 – Fun story: the “batteries-on-milk” promo & promo ROI 40:00 – Final takeaways & sponsor ⸻ CMO Confidential, Mike Linton, Dwight Hutchins, Boston Consulting Group, BCG, marketing efficiency, reduce marketing spend, AI in marketing, marketing analytics, media mix optimization, frequency capping, working vs non-working, zero-based budgeting, ZBB, demand spaces, brand strategy, executive leadership, CFO CMO alignment, budget cuts, marketing operations, insource vs outsource, creative operations, measurement and attribution, marketing governance, content at scale, Typeface, Typeface AI, generative AI for marketing, agentic AI, MarTech integration, CMOs, marketing leadership, board expectations, growth and efficiency, case study, social media shift, campaign sufficiency See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.