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Mike Vizard and Paul Nashawaty, practice lead for application development at the Futurum Group, dive into the highlights of the recent Red Hat Summit before discussing how application modernization is being achieved. Then the conversation turns to what degree observability will require a real-time database before revisiting the degree to which DevOps teams are helping organizations rein in cloud costs.Links Referenced in the Podcast:https://cloudnativenow.com/news/red-hat-expands-scope-of-ai-ambitions-for-openshift-platform/https://techstrong.tv/videos/interviews/technical-debt-in-application-modernization-with-vfunctions-moti-rafalinhttps://devops.com/startree-makes-observability-case-for-apache-pinot-database/https://cloudnativenow.com/editorial-calendar/container-kubernetes-management/finops-for-kubernetes-engineering-cost-optimization/https://devops.com/survey-credits-engineering-teams-with-keeping-lid-on-cloud-costs/