Mike Vizard and Paul Nashawaty, principal analyst for application development for The Futurum Group, dive into where and how improvements to Kubernetes need to be made before talking about the rise of Kubernetes clusters at the network edge and in air-gapped environments. Then, the conversation shifts toward how to apply zero-trust principles in cloud-native application environments before sharing some thoughts on how observability might evolve.   Links Referenced in Podcast: https://cloudnativenow.com/topics/containjers/kubernetes-turns-10-heres-seven-ways-to-make-it-better/https://cloudnativenow.com/topics/cloudnativedevelopment/cncf-kubernetes-continues-to-mature-but-is-it-grown-up/https://cloudnativenow.com/topics/cloudnativedevelopment/kubernetes/red-hat-openshift-update-simplifies-network-edge-deployments/ https://cloudnativenow.com/editorial-calendar/kubernetes-at-the-edge/google-adds-air-gapped-kubernetes-appliance-for-harsh-environments/https://cloudnativenow.com/social-facebook/machines-and-workloads-need-identities-too-not-just-humans/https://devops.com/cloud-canaries-emerges-to-provide-alternative-to-observability-platforms/