Rosie and Bella interview Steve Mintern from OFFICE, critical urban geographer Dr Kate Shaw and designer and activist Cat Macleod about the environmental and social impacts of demolishing the 44 public housing towers in Melbourne. Steve Mintern is a landscape architect and is one of the managing directors of OFFICE, a charitable not-for-profit design and research practice in Melbourne. OFFICE is made up of a group of architects who assist community groups in advocating for better outcomes within their built environment. We talk about the research OFFICE has done into certain public housing communities, such as the Ascot Vale Estate, and their more sustainable solution of Retain, Repair and Reinvest.Critical urban geographer Dr Kate Shaw has a background in urban planning, focusing on the cultures of cities and the political-economic and social processes that shape them. Cat Macleod is a long-time climate and social justice activist and a designer passionate about saving the public housing towers. We speak to both of them together on the current pickets and research surrounding the situation which does not support the demolition of the public housing towers. Resources mentioned includeRAHU: https://rahu.org.au/?srsltid=AfmBOoqLeQJPL0-b596hLCtlDy0Jw7skKV25ZHDnijFEUWbcUnT_-zt_Save Public Housing Collective:https://www.savepublichousing.com/