In this episode, Dustyn Lanz and Lisa Hayles discuss the ongoing backlash against diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives in corporate America. They explore the implications of this backlash, the importance of DEI for business success, and the role of allyship in making a positive impact. Hayles emphasizes the need for companies to adopt effective DEI policies that benefit all employees and the broader community, while also addressing the current political climate and its impact on DEI efforts. The conversation concludes with a focus on finding hope and optimism amidst challenges, highlighting the importance of youth engagement and the discipline of hope in driving change.