The truth path to ESG enlightenment is not paved with positive intentions but must be drilled home by the threat of meaningful punishment. That is the view of ESG expert Desiree Fixler, who oversee the sustainability efforts at DWS before being ousted and ultimately outlining what she saw as misaligned or misguided industry standards around sustainable investing. In this special episode, Desiree, who now works for non-profit group VentureESG, casts a critical eye over the world of ESG investing and looks at the most common mistakes investors and companies alike are falling into. We also hear from Jamie Catherwood on a historic treasure hunt that left investors more underwater than the precious jewels they were seeking.