In this episode, we speak with Johann from Pentatonic about how de-globalization is reshaping supply chains and unintentionally accelerating circularity. From sovereign supply chains to tariff-free second-hand markets, Johan shows why circularity isn’t just sustainability—it’s efficiency, resilience, and smarter economics. Expect contrarian takes on fashion vs. automotive, lessons from Asia, and why building flywheels beats perfect planning every time.
