In this episode of ChurchTalks, Pedro sits down with Steve Gray, longtime pastor at Burleigh Heads Church of Christ and Griffith University chaplain. Steve shares his journey from chasing the rockstar life overseas to finding himself on his knees before God, and how that encounter reshaped his calling.Together, they explore the heartbeat of his ministry... becoming and participating and the conviction that every believer must move from consuming to actually being the Church. Steve unpacks the lessons of leading a replant, the tension between wisdom and youthful zeal, and the call to make space for ordinary people to step into mission.From op shops becoming places of baptism, to his reflections on technology, AI, and even cleaning the church bathrooms before our recording session, Steve reminds us that ministry is about pointing people back to Simply Jesus.

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