In this episode, Colton and Devin are joined by Andrew Kern from the CiRCE Institute to discuss the importance of Homer for education and how his stories relate to the Holy Scriptures. He explains that Homer was the teacher of the Greeks, and teaches his readers how to teach. Homer's stories are filled with weaving imagery, which symbolizes the fabric of civilization and the art of wisdom. Furthermore, the conversation considers the claim that Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey are the best books on rhetoric and storytelling—teaching readers how to deliberate in community and create imaginative worlds rooted in reality. The discussion also explores the relationship between Homer and philosophers like Plato and C. S. Lewis. Might we view Homer's works of epic poetry as the dawn of a new age, while the analytical approach of Plato and Aristotle marks the sunset of an age? Kern emphasizes the need for teachers to teach receptively, allowing students to receive truth and be transformed by it. He also mentions the significance of the temple as a form of reality and announces an upcoming online class on teaching receptively.