CheloniaCast is joined by both Sy Montgomery and Matt Patterson. Sy, a naturalist and writer, has authored 38 books to date. Sy has been on the New York Times Bestseller list five times and has recieved numerous other awards and distinctions for her work including the 2024 Cook Prize. Sy utilizes narrative on animals to convey various messages surrounding issues of human nature, compassion, and philosophy. Matt is a turtle fanatic, artist, and explorer. His primary focus is on turtles and his award-winning illustrations have been featured in fine art galleries, museums, and numerous publications. The conversation centers around Sy and Matt’s collaboration in the creation of “Of Time and Turtles” as well as diving into both of their unique upbringings into the world of turtles and wildlife. There is discussion on the value of the philosophy turtles emulate as well as further detail on the creative journeys of both respected artists, be it the writing or art process.   Purchase “Of Time and Turtles: Mending the World, Shell by Shattered Shell” here: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/of-time-and-turtles-sy-montgomery?variant=41323553062946   Purchase "The Book of Turtles" here: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-book-of-turtles-sy-montgomery?variant=40695888609314   Learn more about Sy Montgomery's work here: https://symontgomery.com/   Check out Matt Patterson’s page here: https://www.mpattersonart.com/   Learn more about the CheloniaCast Podcast here: https://theturtleroom.org/cheloniacast/   Learn more about the CheloniaCast Podcast Fund here: https://theturtleroom.org/project/cheloniacast-podcast/   Follow the CheloniaCast Podcast on Instagram/Facebook/Twitter @cheloniacast   Host and production crew social media - Jason Wills - @chelonian.carter / Michael Skibsted - @michael.skibstedd / Jack Thompson - @jack_reptile_naturalist_302 / Ken Wang - @americanmamushi / Wyatt Keil - @wyatts_wildlife_photography / Paul Cuneo - @paul_turtle_conservation42 / Alex Mione - @alex.mione / Ethan Hancock - @ethankinosternonlover / Torsten Watkins - @t_0_.e