In this episode Anders Herwald Ruhwald and Stephanie Cristello discuss the interplay between form and content in Ruhwald's latest book project Mineral Skin, which features documentation of Ruhwald's practice alongside accompanying text by Cristello.

Together the pair reflect on their collaboration, and the way in which Mineral Skin conforms to and breaks with the conventions of traditional book making. The conversation then broadens into a wider discussion of the role of language in Ruhwald's work and the different ways in which art, materiality and form can intersect in contemporary practice.

Anders Herwald Ruhwald is a Danish-American artist based between Chicago and Detroit. His work is held in the permanent collections of The Art Institute of Chicago, The Los Angeles County Museum of Art, The Victoria & Albert Museum and Musee des Arts decoratifs, among others. Stephanie Cristello, is a contemporary art critic, curator, and author based in Chicago.