Chapter Next is a series of honest, practical conversations hosted by Jason Tonelli with people who’ve turned career changes into opportunities. Across four focused episodes, guests share the tools, mindsets, and moves that help you get back on your feet—and into a role that fits who you are now.
Expect practical checklists, real talk, and hopeful stories - Whether you’re navigating a career reset or leading others through one, Chapter Next helps you move from “What now?” to “Here’s what’s next.”
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Chapter Next is a series of honest, practical conversations hosted by Jason Tonelli with people who’ve turned career changes into opportunities. Across four focused episodes, guests share the tools, mindsets, and moves that help you get back on your feet—and into a role that fits who you are now.
Expect practical checklists, real talk, and hopeful stories - Whether you’re navigating a career reset or leading others through one, Chapter Next helps you move from “What now?” to “Here’s what’s next.”
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this opening episode of Chapter Next, Jason Tonelli sits down with Zoë Coyle — founder of Pilot Light, leadership facilitator, and one of only 400 people worldwide personally trained by Brené Brown. Together they tackle the big question: what happens to our identity when work is taken away?
From shame and disconnection to resilience and growth, Zoë explains how to recognise the “shame storm” that often follows redundancy — and how to move beyond it. With practical tools and personal insights, this conversation reframes redundancy not as an ending, but as the beginning of something new.
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.