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Certainty in Chaos
Pat Zingarella
4 episodes
4 days ago
Certainty in Chaos: Entrepreneurship as It Happens—the show that dives into the raw, unfiltered stories of founders still in the thick of it. We spotlight the resilience, emotional warfare, and daily doubts of building a business in the early days, when success is just a vision. These are the founders who thrive in chaos, turning adversity into a superpower. If you’ve ever wondered what it actually feels like to leave the safety of a 9-to-5 and bet it all on yourself, you’re in the right place. Let’s find the certainty in chaos.
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Certainty in Chaos: Entrepreneurship as It Happens—the show that dives into the raw, unfiltered stories of founders still in the thick of it. We spotlight the resilience, emotional warfare, and daily doubts of building a business in the early days, when success is just a vision. These are the founders who thrive in chaos, turning adversity into a superpower. If you’ve ever wondered what it actually feels like to leave the safety of a 9-to-5 and bet it all on yourself, you’re in the right place. Let’s find the certainty in chaos.
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Entrepreneurship
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Sales to Startup: Multiple Pivots, MVP Chaos, and the Real Path to Product-Market Fit
Certainty in Chaos
50 minutes 51 seconds
8 months ago
Sales to Startup: Multiple Pivots, MVP Chaos, and the Real Path to Product-Market Fit

Will Glass founder of Ostrich, left behind a comfortable corporate job—without a fully-baked plan—to chase an idea that everyone said would be “too risky.” After burning through money building features nobody needed and trudging through multiple pivots—including a foray into the NIL college sports market—Will finally discovered how to make Ostrich a legitimately impactful product.In this episode, you’ll learn: • How to avoid the pitfalls that cause most early-stage founders to waste cash• When to pivot vs. when to double down on your original vision• The secret to finding a real customer base—before money and time run out• Why sometimes “doing the unscalable” is the key to long-term growth• And how to separate your self-worth from the rollercoaster of startup lifeIf you want a refreshingly candid look at startup life—beyond the highlight reels—stick around. Will’s story proves you can stumble through chaos and still find your footing. Enjoy the conversation!


Connect with Will: https://www.linkedin.com/in/williampglass3/

Chapter:00:00 Untold Struggles

02:28 The Birth of Ostrich

03:00 Pivots & Financial Challenges

12:14 Pitching & Failures

15:32 Accelerators and Mentorship

22:54 Building Trust with Investors

26:20 The Cockroach Strategy

27:29 Deciding Whether to Raise Capital

29:10 Mindset Shifts

30:30 Navigating the NIL Space

35:41 Credit Unions

40:18 Importance of Focus

41:49 Doing the Unscalable



Certainty in Chaos
Certainty in Chaos: Entrepreneurship as It Happens—the show that dives into the raw, unfiltered stories of founders still in the thick of it. We spotlight the resilience, emotional warfare, and daily doubts of building a business in the early days, when success is just a vision. These are the founders who thrive in chaos, turning adversity into a superpower. If you’ve ever wondered what it actually feels like to leave the safety of a 9-to-5 and bet it all on yourself, you’re in the right place. Let’s find the certainty in chaos.