Today we are continuing a similar conversation to the previous podcast by using topics from another conversation I listened to and giving my thoughts on it. Today we are talking about a wide range of interesting topics including societies perspective on men vs. women as leaders, shame as a motivator for men, the pursuit of money and strength and what I think might be the most interesting...the importance of differentiating fun and joy.

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