In this episode, we dive headfirst into the first six lines of the 2025 Utah Treasure Hunt poem. We break down each line, look for patterns, and explore possible interpretations based on how John and Dave have crafted their clues in years past. Drawing on their previous solves, we attempt to get inside their heads and understand how they might be thinking this time around.

Also, just a heads up, this was our first attempt at filming a video podcast, and well… we hit a few snags with the audio. It’s not perfect, but we’re learning as we go. Thanks for your patience and sticking with us!