In this episode of The Business of Sustainability, we speak to Phil Hails‑Smith Managing Partner at Joelson, a forward-thinking law firm helping businesses grow with purpose. We explore how sustainability is being redefined in sectors not traditionally seen as green, why environmental and social factors are now a key part of mergers and acquisitions, and how internal culture can be a company’s strongest impact tool. Phil also shares lessons from building a values-led legal team, the challenges of embedding inclusion, and why long-term thinking, not just compliance, is the future of professional services.