This episode is Part II of my long-form interview with Adam Klugman, whom you might know from his now legendary monologues on his old radio show Mad As Hell in America, which used to run on the Air America radio network. For those who did not listen to the first part of the interview, it is worth knowing that Adam is the son of the famous actor Jack Klugman (Angry Old Men, Quincy, and The Odd Couple). Born on the 50-yard line of the game of Hollywood, Adam grew up in no ordinary way, but instead of following in his father's footsteps, he got into commercial ad-making. Eventually he found himself deeply invested in using his skills of messaging and video editing as a hopeful change-maker on the Democratic side of the Isle.

In the interview we discuss how we met, which is through my participation in the planning of the Stop the Machine! Create a New World! protest and occupation of Freedom Plaza in Washington, DC in 2011, just as the Occupy Movement was reaching its apex. The band I played in and co-led for many years, Junkyard Empire, performed at that rally, as well as many other rallies like it across the country, and eventually that was how Adam and I got to know each other. He was a fan of the band, and I was a huge fan of his work on Air America Radio. 

We get into a lot of material here, and I hope it moves some of you to make comments and to subscribe to the podcast.