On today’s episode, we’re joined by Andrew Brogdon, whose background spans creative writing, software engineering, and developer advocacy. Before joining Google, he held roles in advertising technology and has built a reputation as one of the early champions of Flutter. He is currently Staff Developer Relations Engineer at Google, leading efforts that connect the Flutter SDK with its global developer community. Andrew discusses how creative storytelling shapes developer relations, the evolving definition of DevRel in an AI-powered world, and the role of agents in shaping future user experiences.
Key Takeaways:
00:00 Introduction
00:54 Andrew began his career as a poet with two degrees in creative writing.
06:38 Andrew aimed to work at Google to teach developers on YouTube.
10:01 Leadership can provide insight, but reduce technical depth.
15:33 DevRel work is similar, but Google’s tools and studio quality have improved.
20:14 AI raises quality demands, so Flutter supports adaptability.
26:28 Flutter is rethinking resources to improve service for both humans and AI.
29:13 As AI writes more code, Dart may prioritize readability over terseness.
36:42 An agent combines an LLM, tools, and a goal to power agentic apps.
41:24 AI should measurably improve user experience, not be added for hype.
44:38 Empathy and knowing your team increases smarter, stronger leadership.
Resources Mentioned:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/redbrogdon/
Google | LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/company/google/
Google | Website
https://www.google.com/
https://flutter.dev/
https://dart.dev/
https://gemini.google.com/app
https://firebase.studio/
https://docs.flutter.dev/cookbook
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