What happens when you survive the story you thought would end you? In this soul-baring conversation, mystic teachers Julie Hoyle and Lisa Gunshore explore the invisible terrain that follows a radical awakening—when the ego dissolves, the “I” dies, and the Self awakens. But what happens after the light? How do we stay grounded in a body, in a life, when the old identity is gone and the soul knows it is infinite? Together, we share the truth many spiritual seekers quietly carry: the grief of being here, the beauty of being alive, and the challenge of living fully after a part of us has died. If you’ve ever questioned your purpose, felt the tension between spirit and flesh, or wondered how to stay tethered to Earth after awakening to something more, this episode is your mirror. A conversation for those who have died and come back to life—spiritually speaking—and are now looking for meaning in the middle of the mystery.