Legal ops pioneer Lucy Bassli joins Brief Encounters host Richard Mabey for a sharp, honest conversation about how AI is really landing in legal.

They dig into why legal shouldn’t control the full contract lifecycle, what went wrong with CLM, and how the AI shift, while real, is being drowned by the hype.

With insights from both sides of the table, Lucy and Richard explore what it actually takes for legal teams to keep up with the pace of change.

Useful links:

Lucy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucybassli/

‍InnoLaw Group: https://innolawgroup.com/

Richard’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmabey/

Juro: https://juro.com/