Breaking the Frame is a podcast featuring interviews that explore how museums and the people who work in them shape American history and culture — past and present. This episode, we explore issues of American folk, self-taught, and "outsider" art with Michael Bramwell, an artist, curator, and scholar who recently retired from his role as the Joyce Linde Curator of Folk and Self-Taught Art at the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston. To keep up with Breaking the Frame, subscribe or visit our website at https://zencastr.com/Breaking-the-Framezencastr.com/Breaking-the-Frame [http://zencastr.com/Breaking-the-Frame]. More information about the artworks and topics discussed in this episode: * Hear Me Now: The Black Potters of Old Edgefield, South Carolina exhibition at the MFA Boston https://www.mfa.org/exhibition/hear-me-now-the-black-potters-of-old-edgefield-south-carolina * "The Enslaved Artist Whose Pottery Was an Act of Resistance" https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/17/arts/design/-enslaved-potter-david-drake-museum.html * New Discourses on Folk and Self-Taught Art symposium at the MFA Boston https://www.mfa.org/event/symposium/new-discourses-on-folk-and-self-taught-art * "MFA Boston Appoints Michael J. Bramwell as Inaugural Joyce Linde Curator of Folk and Self-Taught Art" https://mfa.org/press-release/michael-bramwell-folk-art-curator * Folk Art of the Americas at the MFA Boston https://collections.mfa.org/collections/315158 * "Heard a Voice, Saw a Light: Spiritual Implications of Creative Belief in Black Vernacular Art" by Michael J. Bramwell, essay in The Unfinished Business of Unsettled Things: Art from an African American South https://uncpress.org/book/9781469668529/the-unfinished-business-of-unsettled-things/ * Minnie Evans https://americanart.si.edu/artist/minnie-evans-1466 * Souls Grown Deep https://www.soulsgrowndeep.org/ * Gee's Bend quiltmakers https://www.soulsgrowndeep.org/gees-bend-quiltmakers * Joseph E. Yoakum https://www.moma.org/artists/26683 Credits: * Hosts: Emily C. Casey and R. Ruthie Dibble * Production Assistant: Katherine White * Graduate student guest: Reyna Mallory * Additional research prepared by: Nathan Osborn and the graduate students of the Spring 2024 HA 706/906 Seminar in American Art: American Museums: Race, Class, Labor at the University of Kansas * Theme music: "Deliberate Thought" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com), Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License [http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/] Artwork: Designed by Katherine White, featuring a frame (ca. 1849-1858) created by the United States Pottery Company currently in the collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art [https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/5608], available under Creative Commons Zero (CC0) [https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/]