Andrew Kirsch spent a decade as a spy with the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) - he joins me to talk about his new book, I Was Never Here: My True Canadian Spy Story of Coffees, Code Names and Covert Operations in the Age of Terrorism. We discuss what motivated him to Google "How do I become a Canadian spy?" and then submit the application, how being a spy impacted his efforts on the dating scene, and how he looks back on his time working to keep Canada safe from threats to its security.

You can find I Was Never Here wherever books are sold, and at iwasneverhere.ca