A raw, unfiltered conversation in the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The hosts wrestle with political violence, free speech, grief, and the dangers of letting ideology eclipse shared humanity. What’s inside: Why discourse — not violence — is the foundation of democracy. Wrestling with hypocrisy on both the left and right. The “paradigm flip” moment: influencers trading talking points across sides. Grief, empathy, and how to respect those mourning. Gun culture, civil conflict fears, and the real-world costs of escalation. Closing reflections on what we owe each other after tragedy.