In this episode, hosts Stephanie and Matt Bushak discuss their journey towards retirement, reflecting on the impact of the pandemic on their financial perspectives, the importance of financial independence, and the strategies they employed to achieve their goals. They delve into credit card churning as a means to eliminate debt and build wealth, while also exploring the emotional and practical aspects of transitioning into retirement. The conversation highlights the significance of health, family, and pursuing passions in this new chapter of life.