Olivia Rose has shot everyone from Slowthai to Skepta and Jorja Smith, and all on film and nothing but (she has doggedly refused to go digital). She's also the photographer behind 'This Is Grime', the definitive book on one of Britain’s defining music genres.

Olivia talks to our host, Daniella Isaacs, about burnout culture, creative postnatal depression, subcultures and, of course, going against the grain in the photography world.

Black Sheep is produced by Black Sheep Studios with Daniella Isaacs for BBH. It’s recorded, mixed and mastered by our friends at Soho Radio, and the music is by Daniel Lovegrove.

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