Erika DeWalt
Director of Talent and Leader Development; Former School Leader
“It’s important to have a seat at the table.”
In this episode of Black Educators Matter, Erika DeWalt explores why Black educators are essential to the fabric of education and community. She emphasizes that representation in schools builds belonging, trust, and cultural understanding for both students and parents. Erika shares how her experience at Tennessee State University revealed gaps in her own education and sparked a lifelong mission to ensure students see themselves reflected in what they learn. From her leadership journey to her reflections on the principalship, she offers a candid look at the immense pressure and emotional toll faced by Black educators, particularly amid teacher shortages, burnout, and a system that often overlooks their professional development and well-being.
“Be a part of the system building.”
Despite these challenges, Erika’s story is one of joy, resilience, and vision. She finds fulfillment in culturally affirming education—bringing history and celebration into classrooms and leading by example in her son’s school. Her commitment to self-care, mentorship, and community underscores the need for systemic change that supports educators as whole humans. Looking ahead, Erika envisions a future modeled after Black Wall Street—where Black students thrive in schools led by Black educators, grounded in culture, wellness, and purpose. Her legacy goal is clear: to empower Black women educators and create educational spaces that honor ancestry, affirm identity, and prepare the next generation to lead with confidence and joy.
"Black educators matter because they inspire the next generation to reach their full potential."
Dr. Gregory Ross
President, Head of School at West End School
https://www.ace-edservices.com/
"I strive to be the educator that my younger self needed."
In this enlightening episode, we are honored to welcome Dr. Gregory Ross, a dynamic leader and educator, who shares his powerful journey from a young boy in Paducah, Kentucky, to the president of the West End School in Louisville. Dr. Ross reflects on the profound influence of his mother and other educators, particularly highlighting the importance of representation in education and how it shaped his belief in the potential of every child.
"We must prioritize purpose over promotion."
Dr. Ross provides invaluable advice for first-year educators, underscoring the importance of humility, reverence and the willingness to learn from those around them. His call to action for Black educators is both inspiring and urgent: to recognize the power they hold in shaping the future and to instill a sense of excellence in their students.
"Education is not just in the classroom; it's a lifelong journey."
Dr. Letha Bell-Jackson
Early Childhood Educator and Doctorate in Christian Education
"Black educators matter because we are the bridge to understanding and empowerment."
In this enlightening episode of Black Educators Matter, we are thrilled to feature Dr. Letha Bell-Jackson, a dedicated educator with over 20 years of experience. Dr. Bell-Jackson shares her unique perspective on the importance of Black educators in shaping the lives of students and the broader community.
"Teaching is my life source."
Dr. Bell-Jackson reflects on her formative years in Chicago, where she experienced the challenges of a lack of Black representation in education. She emphasizes the critical role that educators play in fostering life skills and community engagement, particularly for parents. With a heart for mentorship, Dr. Bell-Jackson discusses her mission to empower families and nurture future generations.
Join us as we delve into Dr. Bell-Jackson's reflections on her career, the state of Black education in America, and her unwavering determination to uplift her community. Her passion for teaching and advocacy is a testament to the profound impact that Black educators have on all students.
"Black educators matter because we are continuing a legacy from years before us."
Shanimarie Ogilvie
First Grade Elementary Teacher
"I strive to set a high bar for my students because I know they can achieve it."
We are thrilled to welcome Shanimarie Ogilvie, a dedicated first-grade teacher with a rich background in education. Originally from Jamaica, Shanimarie reflects on her transformative journey from a predominantly Black educational experience in her home country to navigating the challenges of a predominantly white school system in the United States. She shares how her early educators laid the foundation for her belief in high expectations and the importance of representation in the classroom.
"Teaching reading is one of my biggest joys."
With 17 years of experience, Shanimarie has held various roles, including instructional coach and supervisor, but her passion for teaching reading remains at the forefront. She offers invaluable insights for new educators, emphasizing the significance of mastering classroom management and the importance of self-care to prevent burnout in a demanding profession. Shanimarie is the host of The Teachers Impact podcast.
"A Black educator destroys the myth of black inferiority and white supremacy."
Jeffrey Barnes
Math and Social Studies Teacher
"I strive to be the teacher that I needed when I was growing up."
In the latest episode of our podcast, we had the privilege of speaking with Jeffrey Barnes, affectionately known as Brother Jeff, a passionate educator who has dedicated his life to teaching mathematics and social studies. Jeffrey's journey into education is rooted in his family's legacy and his desire to make a difference in the lives of Black youth. He shares how his mother, a historian and one of the first Black students to integrate a university, inspired him to pursue a career in education.
"What brings me joy is when the light comes on in someone's eyes."
As a seasoned educator, Jeffrey offers valuable advice to first-year teachers. He encourages them to be patient with themselves, seek mentorship, and establish a healthy work-life balance. His own journey has not been without challenges, including a time when he considered leaving the profession. However, the support of his community and the realization of his passion for teaching brought him back to the classroom.
Episode Keywords
Black Educators, Education Journey, Representation In Education, Jeffrey Barnes, Importance Of Black Male Educators, Social Studies, Mathematics, Educational Legacy, Community Impact, Teaching Strategies, Student Engagement, Educational Challenges, Mentoring New Teachers, Emotional Learning, History Of Black Education, Overcoming Adversity, Youth Mentorship, Black History, Educational Transformation, Advocacy In Education
"Literacy is everything."
Dr. Duane Davis
Literacy Advocate and Public School Advocate
https://www.instagram.com/literacyloungepod/
https://bsky.app/profile/literacyloungepod.bsky.social
Email us at morelifemorestories@gmail.com
"We need to see models and examples of people that look like us."
Hello, Season 3! We are thrilled to welcome Dr. Duane Davis back to the Black Educators Matter podcast for a special episode that introduces our new collaborative initiative, the Literacy Lounge. Dr. Davis, a passionate literacy advocate, emphasizes the critical role that Black educators play in shaping the future of students, especially as a model for those who may not have seen educators who look like them.
"Literacy is a movement."
Dr. Davis discusses the origin of the Literacy Lounge, a companion podcast aimed at uplifting the voices of authors, storytellers, and creatives in the education space. He reflects on the importance of literacy as a foundational element of education and its expansive role in various aspects of life, including STEM, art, and health. Dr. Davis shares his call to action for Black educators and creators, encouraging them to continue their vital work and support one another. He highlights the significance of community and representation in education, reminding us that every effort counts in the ongoing fight for equity and access.
Special thanks to Dr. Davis's family and the mentors who have influenced his journey. Join us as we celebrate the launch of the Literacy Lounge and the impactful stories that will emerge from this new platform.
"We are the backbones, we are the nurturers, we are the lovers, we are the teachers."
Ayanna Scott Jenkins
Middle School Instructional Coach
http://www.primerica.com/a_jenkins
"Without us, the world would be something different."
This week, we welcome Ayanna Scott Jenkins, a dedicated middle school instructional coach, to Black Educators Matter. Born and raised in Aurora, Illinois, Ayanna reflects on her formative years in predominantly white educational settings, where, despite never having a Black teacher, she was deeply influenced by a strong community of Black mentors, including her parents and godparents. Her journey led her to pursue education at Clark Atlanta University and later at the University of Illinois, Chicago, majoring in secondary education. Ayanna shares her experiences of moving through different educational landscapes, from Illinois to Ohio, and the profound impact of building genuine connections with her students.
"I wanted to be the teacher that I did not have."
Ayanna discusses the challenges and triumphs of her 24-year career in education, emphasizing the importance of leading with love and the critical role of mentorship. Her reflections touch on the systemic issues within Black education, including the effects of integration and the need for communal support and representation in schools. Ayanna also shares her passion for financial literacy, aiming to empower educators to secure their futures beyond retirement.
Special thanks to Dr. Briggs, Dr. Stephanie Powell, Dr. Darrell Sanders, and Dr. Kimberly Hinton, whose mentorship and guidance have significantly shaped Ayanna's career and personal growth.
"You are capable and it is possible."
Darius Stanley
Assistant Professor, Educational Leadership, Author
To order his book: https://hep.gse.harvard.edu/9781682538869/blackeducatorsmatter/
"I realized that I don't think they hired me to teach."
This week, we are joined by Dr. Darius Stanley, an assistant professor of educational leadership at the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities. Hailing from Tallahassee, Florida, Dr. Stanley shares his journey from being one of the few Black students in his K-12 classes to attending Florida A&M University, an HBCU that felt like home. His experiences in predominantly white schools and later at an all-Black high school shaped his understanding of the importance of representation and community in education.
"Black educators are the shepherds of maintaining the wholeness of Black students."
Dr. Stanley reflects on his career, from teaching social studies in Orlando to pursuing a PhD to enact systemic change. He discusses the challenges Black educators face, such as being seen as disciplinarians rather than teachers, and the critical role they play in creating spaces where Black students can see their potential. His book, "Black Educators Matter: The Experiences of Black Teachers in an Anti-Black World," explores these themes and emphasizes the importance of addressing anti-Blackness in educational systems to truly support Black educators and students.
Special thanks to Mr. Burgess, Dr. David Jackson, and all the Black educators who have influenced Dr. Stanley's journey and continue to inspire others.
“You do you.”
Chris Chambers Goodman
Professor of Law
"I really love when I see the light bulb of recognition."
This week, we are joined by Professor Chris Chambers Goodman, a distinguished law professor at Pepperdine Caruso School of Law. Born in Los Angeles and now residing between Switzerland and Malibu, Goodman reflects on her journey from a diverse K-12 experience to becoming a trailblazer in legal education. Navigating through different school districts, she faced the challenges of being one of the few Black students, yet she thrived, becoming the valedictorian and later attending Harvard University, where she was the only Black student from her high school to do so. Her journey was further inspired by her first Black professor in law school, who encouraged her to consider academia, leading her to a fulfilling career in legal education.
"Mentoring and seeing the light bulb go off bring me joy."
Professor Goodman shares her insights on the importance of visibility, mentoring, and providing alternatives in education. She emphasizes the significance of being an authentic educator and the joy she finds in mentoring students who go on to become judges, congresspersons, and educators themselves. Her career has been marked by her dedication to ensuring her students feel seen and supported, particularly those who may not have had a Black professor before. Goodman discusses the ongoing challenges and opportunities within Black education, highlighting the impact of affirmative action and the evolving landscape of educational equity.
Special thanks to Professor Chuck Lawrence and Patricia Williams, whose mentorship and groundbreaking work have significantly influenced Goodman's career and research. Shout out to the Black law professors who continue to inspire and pave the way for future generations.
“Ms. Stampley was my inspiration…”
Barbara Bennett
Reading Interventionist, Pre K, K, 1st - 3rd
"I had the best teachers."
This week we are joined by Ms. Barbara Bennett, a dedicated reading interventionist with a background in Pre-K - 3. Growing up in Clarksdale, Mississippi, Bennett was highly inspired by her teacher, Ms. Stampley, and experienced the profound impact of having Black educators who understood the urgency of her community's needs. Reflecting on her son's contrasting educational journey, she notes the systemic challenges he’s encountered, including low expectations and lack of resources, like a science lab and the ability to apply to certain high schools.
"Black educators make their students see that they have the capability to do more and be more."
Barbara shares multiple stories of the impact Black educators can have on their students. From reflecting on her high school science teacher to her own pursuit of teacher licensure, her village (which included a lot of Alpha Kappa Alpha women!) prepared her to advocate for all students, including her own son. Her passion for education is rooted in the heart and empathy she brings to the classroom, mirroring the love and care she received from her mentor.
Sending special gratitude and a huge #Shoutout to Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated, Xi Nu Omega Chapter, where Barbara and Danielle are both active members. Danielle was invited to host a Black Educators Matter table at the March 2024 Chapter meeting, and Barbara signed up to share her story!
“I’m overjoyed that our kids now have these opportunities.”
Wil Page
Climate Justice
6th Grade Math/Science
"It was joyful," says Wil Page, reflecting on his journey as a 6th-grade science teacher with 16 years of experience. Growing up in Los Angeles, he navigated the complexities of being the only biracial child in his class. Inspired by his unapologetically Black kindergarten teacher and his parents' involvement in education, he became an activist educator. As a career changer, Page entered education through an alternative teacher training program.
"Take your mental health days," advises Page, who believes in the importance of self-care for educators. As an active member of United Teachers Los Angeles, he’s proud of the Black Student Achievement Plan and the exposure to HBCUs. He had the opportunity to create a Climate Justice class to inspire his students to become climate activists. He speaks on the power of a strong mentor community, the Black men that inspired him, and how he’s empowering his students to lead the next movement.
“This is our Selma Bridge.”
Dr. Qiana O’Leary
"A glorious, glorious journey."
#Shoutout to the storytellers. This week, we sit with Dr. Qiana O'Leary, CEO, Founder, and Owner of Minty Educational Services, as she reflects on moments of joy and pain throughout her 27-year career. Starting as an instructional aide and now an assistant professor, her journey is a testament to the impact and importance of Black educators (ask her former student LaQuan!) and following the calling on your life. Growing up in Los Angeles during the crack epidemic, she was forced to grow up fast, and these experiences fueled her commitment to social justice in education.
"We bring culture to the classroom."
As trailblazers who set the path of newness, Dr. O'Leary highlights the unique perspective and value that Black educators offer. Her experiences across academic environments has prepared her to co-create schools and empower parents, educators and students. Qiana breaks down the impact of Brown v. Board, the school to prison pipeline, and why she’s inspired by the new generation of teachers and students. Her book, Lead with Truth, is out now, and she dropped hints about her future work, “Teaching Saved Me.” She also shares about the signature programs through Minty Educational Services (and the 10 acre farm!!!). Tune in as we discuss the revolutionary power of Black educators.
Dante Plush
Director of Youth Engagement, Comedian
IG: @DanteFlush
“We need to address these educational barriers that are stopping our kids outside of school from getting a good education inside of school.”
“What is there to be scared of?”
Dante Flush, Director of Youth Engagement, says he has the best job in the world as he supports and listens to changemakers every day and works to reject survival mode while engaging in the work. Growing up in a predominantly white conservative town, Dante experienced microaggressions and a sense of isolation, and had to navigate the college process as the first in his family to attend. As a history major turned teacher, he was presented with an awesome new opportunity that allowed him to address challenges outside of school and work to co-create with students.
“Teach young people how to advocate for themselves.”
Dante's mission extends beyond the classroom, empowering students to address societal challenges. As a former teacher, he recalls the real drama in schools, highlighting the pressures and triggers educators face, especially in Title 1 schools, and the need to actively reject imposter syndrome. Through his advocacy and dedication, Dante embodies the belief that education is not just about academics but also highlighting the ways that students showcase their purpose, power and excellence.
“We aren’t looking for allies… we are looking for co-conspirators…”
Cecily My-art Cruz
6th and 7th English Teacher, President, United Teachers Los Angeles
https://utla.net/contacts/cecily-myart-cruz/
“All I knew was Black educators showing us Black excellence on a daily basis.”
In this episode, we had the honor of speaking with Cecily My-art Cruz, a passionate educator and president of United Teachers Los Angeles. With 29 years of experience, Cecily's journey in education has been deeply influenced by her upbringing in Los Angeles, where she was surrounded by Black educators who exemplified excellence and instilled a sense of pride in their students. She draws inspiration from her ancestors (including her father!), leaning on their guidance to navigate her path forward as an activist educator.
“We’ve been doing all of this work. It’s time to take it to the next level.”
Cecily's commitment to her students goes beyond the classroom; she is a fierce advocate for racial justice and equity in education. She emphasizes the importance of representation, stating that "our babies need to see us in these spaces." Through her leadership, she has worked to dismantle harmful systems and create safe environments for all students. Cecily's dedication to her students and community serves as a powerful example of how educators can make a lasting impact by being their authentic selves and advocating for change.
“I feel like I found my revolution in teaching.”
Rodney Powell
School Principal, Founder EdArchy
“I want to see free kids have free thoughts.”
"In education, we have the power to construct freedom," shares Mr. Rodney Powell, a school principal and founder of EdArchy, as he reflects on his journey and vision for education. His path into education was not conventional, but driven by a deep-rooted desire to be a revolutionary and create meaningful change. Despite not attending an HBCU himself, he recognizes the value and impact they have, particularly in fostering a strong sense of pride and community.
“My journey was meant to be seamlessly integrated with the community.”
Over the last two decades, Mr. Powell has been at the forefront of innovative education, founding schools with African-centered curricula and empowering students to be agents of change. His work extends beyond the classroom, advocating for a paradigm shift in education that prioritizes Black joy, ownership, and freedom. Through EdArchy, he aims to incubate and amplify the ideas of young people, emphasizing the importance of creating communities and spaces where all voices are heard and valued. Mr. Powell's story serves as a powerful reminder of the transformative potential of education when grounded in community, empowerment, and liberation… a “villatucian”.
“We have yet to reckon with the influence of racism and white supremacy in all of our spaces, but especially schools.”
Dr. Daman Harris
Manager of Higher Education Partnerships, Co-Director BOND Project, Author
Book: The Antiracist School Leader
“There have always been people around me that poured into me.”
In this enlightening episode, we dive into the journey of Dr. Daman Harris, an educator, author, and co-director of The Bond Project (located in the Baltimore/DC Metro area). Dr. Harris reflects on his experiences as a Black student in different states, highlighting the profound impact of key moments and individuals in his life (including the significance of the 1975 Peanuts Dictionary). He shares how a chance encounter and wise words from a supervisor led him to discover his true calling in education, despite facing setbacks like losing a full scholarship.
“If you are ready… I got you.”
Throughout the conversation, Dr. Harris emphasizes the importance of unity and collaboration in education, and why he’s excited about the critical mass that’s coming. In a time of book bans, he speaks about the data and how the stagnant demographic hierarchy hasn’t changed. His book, a heartfelt tribute to his school, serves as a beacon for those who recognize the need for change and are willing to challenge the status quo. Dr. Harris's story is a testament to the transformative power of education and mentorship, reminding us all that Black educators are the anchors, the rocks, and the roots for Black students, providing food for their souls, not just food for thought.
“Each generation has to make sure that the next generation does better.”
Dr. Don Parker
Educational Keynote Speaker, Author, Former Administrator, Dean and Educator
https://drdonparker.com/about/
“I absolutely knew what I wanted to do. I knew what I wanted my future to look like."
#Shoutout to the PE Teachers! As a Black male educator, author, speaker, and coach, Dr. Don Parker has carved out a unique path. He’s been able to blend his content expertise, social emotional learning framework and gap closing interventions into meaningful professional development sessions that help educators move beyond survival mode and create environments where all students can be successful. His journey from first generation college student to instructional leader is a testament to the transformative power of education, mentorship, and prayer.
“Bringing out the best in teachers, so that they can bring out the best in their students.”
Through his work, Dr. Parker emphasizes the importance of restorative practices, relationship building, and recognizing the gifts and assets in every student. For those ready to grow their careers outside of the classroom, he teaches fellow educators how to amplify their impact and income, embodying the belief that each generation should strive to do better than the last. His story is one of resilience and determination, rooted in the belief that with the right support, guidance, and environment every student can reach their full potential (#shoutout to the College Fit discussion!). You can learn more in his new book, “Be the Driving Force: Leading Your School on the Road to Equity.”
“Education is like a game, there are rules to the game. Black children, often time, are not given the rulebook.“
Dr. Tracee Perryman
CEO / CoFounder of Center of Hope Family Services, Author
“I became energized by teaching children how to learn, how to think.”
Dr. Tracee Perryman, CEO/Co-Founder of Center of Hope Family Services, shares her journey and passion for education. Raised in a family deeply rooted in education, with a grandfather who was an educator during Jim Crow and a mother with over 30 years of experience, her work is designed to be an intentional and supplemental approach to education. Her belief in self-reliance and the empowerment of students is reflected in her father’s quote, "You will not depend on another system or structure to feed you education." Despite facing challenges, including being the only Black student in some of her classes, Dr. Perryman's love for learning and teaching has only grown over the years.
“Inequities in funding… creates inequity in access.”
Driven by a desire to create opportunities for every student to feel smart, Dr. Perryman started her work right out of high school, beginning in a church fellowship hall. She believes that education disparities are a social justice issue, inspiring her to pursue higher education to be more effective in her interventions and learning about legislation that impacts education. She discusses barriers to entry in the field, class and cultural differences about how we view choice, and emphasizes the importance of mentor educators to help you refine and elevate your work.
“Being an educator is a lifestyle.”
Tierra Jones
Classroom Teacher (Spanish, World History), Paraprofessional
“I get those kids because I was that kid.”
Ms. Tierra Jones, a classroom teacher and paraprofessional, emphasizes the significance of representation in education, recognizing her own journey from a skeptical student to a dedicated educator. With quotes like "I am a teacher" and "State of Emergency," she highlights the urgency of addressing challenges within the education system. Despite facing personal struggles and doubts about schooling, Ms. Jones has found purpose and confidence in her role as an educator, striving to create safe and supportive environments where all students can thrive. She navigates the complexities of balancing her roles as an educator and a mother, recognizing the cyclical nature of the school year and the need to prioritize human connection over corporate agendas. In the face of societal challenges and the devaluation of education, she remains steadfast in her belief that every individual has the power to make a difference. Through her experiences and memories, she underscores the transformative nature of teaching as more than just a profession but a way of life. As an empath, she harkens to the day where educators were allowed to be extended members of their students' families. She discusses the emotional and mental cost involved with this work, and she emphasizes wellness and self care, and staying in touch with the human side of education.
“My philosophy is to leave people better, coach them to a new level.”
Coach Carlos Johnson
"True educating will not start, can not start, until you’ve created an environment for healthy relationships to foster.”
Hailing from Detroit, Michigan, with over two decades of experience, Coach Carlos Johnson adeptly bridges the worlds of business and education, advocating for having all voices at the table with a sense of empathy and action. From curriculum design to facilitating professional development, Coach Carlos empowers administrators and leaders to understand the data that impacts their student culture, consider the brain based science when examining student behavior, and always remember the three R’s: Recruit. Retain. Respond.
“It’s war time.”
Coach Carlos is a business man that understands education, and an educator that understands business. When reflecting on the state of education, he discusses the longitudinal data and the impact of Title IX. His journey into education was shaped by the era of No Child Left Behind and the rise of charter schools, which encouraged districts to adopt innovative approaches. Recognizing the impact of his own African American female teachers (and the lack of Black male educators), he stresses the importance of diverse representation in classrooms. Coach Carlos's advice to first-year educators is to build healthy performance-based relationships and he challenges educators to adopt a coaching mindset.