José and NYC-based healer and supermodel of the world Aba Mfrase-Ewur discuss modeling in today's fashion ecosystem, trauma and healing, and role models in today's internet age.

In this episode Aba and I discuss her journey through modeling, becoming a healer, the importance of growing into yourself, and role models. We also discuss imagery in the fashion industry and talk about the nuance behind modeling and selecting  jobs — that is choosing to be the tangible and visual representation of a brand and/or product — and our responsibility as people inside the industry in regards to what products of fashion people are exposed to and have access to. We also discuss the Vogue Challenge, Vogue US and Annie Leibovitz, and our shared love for Edward Enninful’s work at British Vogue!

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For episode transcript visit: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-N3k1OFadsSiXaS01PRRfui3E_D3tzx2JZL-MLW3Ea8/edit?usp=sharing