Too many designers wait for their companies to approve conferences or courses before investing in themselves. This week, we unpack why that’s a career-limiting mistake and how taking ownership of your education builds leadership, confidence, and community.
What if the biggest career mistake you’re making is waiting for your company to invest in you?
This week, I sit down with Yao Adantor, a UX professional, educator, founder of UX Con and User Experience University. Yao has built a career across Fortune 500s, startups, and government, while also teaching at Johns Hopkins and MICA. At the heart of his story is one simple belief: don’t wait for permission to grow.
In our conversation, Yao shares why investing in your own education is less about buying a certificate and more about building confidence, networks, and opportunities that pay dividends for years. We talk about the “entrepreneurial mindset” of learning—how approaching your growth like a founder changes the way you show up in your job.
We also dig into the hidden ROI of conferences, courses, and communities. Beyond the talks, it’s the connections, the ideas, and the confidence you bring back to your team that make the investment worth it. Whether you’re a junior designer or a seasoned leader, this episode will challenge how you think about your growth.
If you’ve ever hesitated to spend your own money or time on learning, this conversation is for you. Give it a listen and rethink how you approach your education and career.
Topics:
• 03:04 – Investing in Your Own Education
• 03:39 – Guest Introduction: Yao Anor
• 05:15 – Yao’s Journey into UX
• 08:23 – The Importance of Networking and Conferences
• 15:39 – Leadership and the Entrepreneurial Mindset
• 25:52 – Defining Education and Personal Growth
• 31:09 – Community and Fulfillment Through Education
• 32:57 – Maximizing Education for Personal Growth
• 34:09 – Balancing Family and Professional Development
• 35:09 – The Sacrifices of Pursuing Education
• 40:06 – The Importance of Leading by Example
Helpful Links:
• Connect with Yao on LinkedIn
• UXCon 2025
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