In this episode I'm joined by Marg Ryan, a colleague and fellow psychedelic-assisted psychotherapist. We explore the important and, at times, complex topic of non-verbal support in psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy. We talk about our practice as somatic therapists, our respective journeys into this work, somatic psychotherapy and psychedelic therapy, non-verbal support in psychedelic therapy, the Importance of the attachment lens in psychedelic work and consent and boundaries. Marg is a senior clinical psychotherapist with twenty years in mental health and private practice. She conducts therapy and supervises clinicians working with individuals, couples, and those developing psychedelic-assisted therapy skills. Marg has been involved in psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy research at Monash University's Clinical Psychedelic Lab in Melbourne, Australia. She served as a core therapist in Australia's largest psilocybin trial for Generalised Anxiety Disorder and in the MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD trial. She completed intensive psilocybin training and MDMA therapist training with MAPS in 2021. Marg co-facilitated a training program for psychedelic trial therapists at Curtin University, delivered by Monash, and assisted in the first Australian MAPS MDMA training at Monash. She is also a tutor for the MIND (Berlin) two-year psychedelic therapist training program. keep in touch with me at Insta: dresmedark Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/dr-esme-dark-627156a0/ website: https://www.esmedarkpsychology.com.au/ find Marg at https://www.counsellormelbourne.com/ Find Monash Clinical Psychedelic Lab at www.monash.edu/psychedelics Disclaimer: This podcast if for general information only and does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation for psychedelic- assisted psychotherapy.