**This is Part Two of a two-part episode - if you haven’t heard the first instalment, head back and listen to Part One first**   ___________________   Welcome to Beyond The Suit, the podcast that aims to push the current boundaries and conventional thoughts of those working in the legal industry to look beyond the suit.    Brought to you by Fintelligent, with your host Zac Green. In each episode, we dive deep into the legal world by speaking with professionals from all levels and backgrounds, opening new doors for insightful conversations.   In this instalment, Zac is joined by co-host James Fowler, Managing Director at Fintelligent, as they sit down with Simon Whitehead, Partner and Head of Recruitment & Workforce Solutions at Brabners.    The episode deep dives into Simon's career journey from starting as a trainee lawyer in Manchester to setting up his own law firm. Simon candidly and honestly discusses his non-traditional route into law, all the while giving a heart-felt account of his experiences starting a family and setting up a business. Timestamped Guide    00:03 - Legal industry insights and personal challenges 00:59 - Recruitment challenges in a law firm 03:33 - The impact of theatre on life and work 08:27 - Leaving a law firm for a new opportunity 14:27 - Starting and selling a law firm during COVID-19 19:39 - Law firm growth and development 23:26 - Career paths, stress relief, and personal growth 29:12 - The legal industry, career development, and access to justice 35:02 - Law firm culture, technology, and personal preferences 39:23 - Legal careers, gun stories, and team management  Connect with your hosts, Zac Green and James Fowler on LinkedIn. Find our guest, Simon Whitehead on LinkedIn.   Thanks for listening to Beyond The Suit brought to you by Fintelligent  This is a Loaded Hype production.