BTC - Episode 7 - Dr. Gordon Abner

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Beyond The Checklist

National Association for Accreditation Leadership

18 episodes

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Beyond the Checklist is the go-to podcast for public safety professionals, leaders, and accreditation experts dedicated to driving excellence in public safety organizations. Each episode dives into the practical aspects of the accreditation process, showcasing real-world success stories, challenges, and strategies that help agencies meet and exceed best practice standards. With interviews from top accreditation leaders, public safety officers, and industry experts, this show brings to light the actionable steps that agencies can take to earn and maintain accreditation and community trust.

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BTC - Episode 7 - Dr. Gordon Abner

Beyond The Checklist

40 minutes 58 seconds

2 months ago

BTC - Episode 7 - Dr. Gordon Abner

The Data Behind Accreditation: A Thought Leader Conversation with Dr. Gordon Abner

In this episode of Beyond the Checklist, host Kevin Rhea, Co-Founder and Executive Director of the National Association for Accreditation Leadership (NAAL), sits down with Dr. Gordon Abner, Assistant Professor of Public Management at the University of Texas at Austin’s LBJ School of Public Affairs — one of the few scholars deeply researching the real-world impacts of accreditation in public safety.

From public trust to organizational change, Dr. Abner’s work bridges the gap between theory and practice, offering evidence-based insights for law enforcement, fire, EMS, emergency management, corrections, and communications. Together, they unpack:

Why public support for accreditation is stronger than many think
How CALEA accreditation influences community policing, gender diversity, and institutional learning
Whether accreditation limits local control or strengthens community voice
Practical lessons accreditation managers can apply today to build legitimacy and trust

If you’ve ever needed data to back up the value of accreditation — or wanted to understand its deeper social and organizational impact — this conversation will equip you with research-driven takeaways and a renewed vision for continuous improvement.