For Episode 5, Dan sat down with ANDY CAIRNS, guitarist, composer, the founding member of Therapy? and JAAW. Coming from the underground scene of Northern Ireland, Andy became of the most prolific songwriters and lyricists of the 90’s, organically uniting pessimism with post-modernistic worldview. In 2023, Cairns, a prolific songwriter released two new albums. First of all, ‘Hard Cold Fire’, the newest LP of Therapy? (available now via Marshall Records). Secondly, ‘Superclaster’, the debut release of JAAW – Andy’s project founded with Adam Betts, Jason Stoll and Wayne Adams. In this episode of Beyond Recognition Andy Cairns discusses the roots of pessimism in lyrics and the popularity of 'Troublegum', the chemistry in Therapy? and Andy’s ‘tabula rasa’ with JAAW; touring and life-learning experiences, the dramatism of 'Infernal Love', love of post-punk and a lot more. Beyond Recognition is an all-about-creativity-podcast hosted by Dan Volohov - a former music journalist (MRR, Louder Than War, Punk Globe, Boston Hassle...) and the CEO of Discipline PR. Follow the podcast on Patreon to get different bonuses and advance episodes here: patreon.com/BeyondRecognition  Music: 'New Gloves' by Phenolhouse.