Today our episode is a little unconventional! One year ago in Chicago at the Women In Design Deep Dive we had our first Beyond Ray live episode with guest Jillian Tackaberry, Design director at MINIMAL.  We bring you that live audio complimented by a current interview session with Jillian, rehashing some of the experience on stage and going deeper into her thinking. Jillian has learned to lead through her powerful capacity to observe and pay attention to the experiences of others. She prioritizes full team involvement and shared wins and losses ensuring that everyone pushes each other's concepts forward.  Since Jillian thinks of herself more as a listener, this conversation is a special opportunity to hear the process details behind finicky dry shampoo bottles, Theragun iterations and Eomykota, Jillian’s work as an artist. More show content: www.beyondraypodcast.com/