In this era, to be a man “written by a woman” is the highest form of a compliment or at least that’s what Tiktok says. But what about being a woman written by a man; or let’s put it this way, to be a woman seen through the eyes of a man.

In today’s episode, you’ll hear the besties’ experiences as women through their eyes and how the social construct of the male gaze shaped their upbringing - from their clothing choices and beauty ideals. This episode is a long one and it barely touches the ripples of this construct rooted in patriarchal values.

So grab a notebook, jot some questions, and let’s see where this conversation is heading to.