To no one's surprise, life got in the way of recording and editing but I'm very happy to be putting out this episode with my friend Zach Toney. In this episode, I primarily talk to Zach about how to stop caring about what other people think and how that can be freeing on multiple levels. Some other bits of conversion include formative video games, an explanation of what design management is, and my personal pet peeves with butter.

0:32 Guest Introduction

13:10 What unemployment during COVID was like for Zach

19:07 What is Metanoia?

23:19 How to stop caring about what other people think

30:37 Law School and Design Management

41:42 My personal pet peeve with butter