Matthew Heuck joins me to talk about his band Pillgrinns, stimulating an underground scene in his Huddersfield student house basement, what makes Hull a surprising hotbed of post-punk and the best band he's ever played with.

Heucky was the frontman of Pillgrinns who probably won't be playing any shows any time soon, but their Smile EP is a real gem that needs unearthing. These days he also works with Bleakhaus who put on some great gigs in the Leeds area.

Oedipus the King are the best band Heucky's played with and frankly it's a crime that they're not gigantic. Please check them out. I beg you.