In this episode of Bench Talk, host Tom Gerrard introduces a classic interview with artist Jason Jagel, who shares insights into his artistic journey, education, and the evolution of his work. Jagel discusses his experiences creating album artwork for the likes of MF Doom and Madlib, and the significance of his figure paintings, and the challenges of maintaining an artistic identity. He reflects on his career milestones, collaborations, and the impact of music on his art. The conversation also touches on the realities of making a living as an artist and offers valuable advice for aspiring creatives. ------ Looking to uplevel your art career so that you feel confident and clear on the pathway forward AND experience creative and financial growth?     Check out www.artcareeracademy.com.  The signature 6 week program Going [ART] Pro is open for enrollment right now.