What if the sanctuary you’re looking for is one you build with your own two hands? In this episode, I sit with Michael Dellios, artist, builder, and co-founder of Sip Saunas. From growing up on job sites with his father to becoming a lifelong entrepreneur, Michael shares how following his curiosity led him from advertising to furniture-making to creating spaces that restore health, connection, and presence. We dive into sauna culture, rituals that quiet the mind, and why creating sacred spaces—whether it’s a chair, a mug, or a sauna—can transform the way we live. This is a conversation about creativity, resilience, trusting your gut, and building not just structures, but experiences that last for generations. Timestamps: 00:00 – Who is Michael Dellios? A beautifully imperfect human 02:00 – The peace of building with your hands 04:00 – Growing up with a builder father and learning artistry through design 05:30 – The entrepreneurial journey: from grass-cutting to marketing to music to furniture 07:00 – Feeling unfulfilled and searching for deeper meaning in work 09:00 – The pivot: from psychotherapy dreams to building saunas 11:00 – The first sauna project and the impact it had on community 14:00 – Trusting your gut and finding clarity in silence 18:00 – Building the first SIP sauna and commitment to sustainable materials 22:00 – Saunas as ancestral sanctuaries: slowing down and reconnecting 26:00 – Rituals with Lisa: breathwork, stretching, and sacred boundaries 29:00 – Morning routines that rebaptize the mind daily 31:00 – Handling anxiety, doubt, and the practice of dots forming a line 36:00 – Practical advice for buying or building a sauna 40:00 – The importance of testing saunas before investing 42:00 – Creating sacred spaces beyond the sauna: chairs, mugs, and rituals 44:00 – Vipassana, plant medicine, and new edges in mental fitness 46:00 – The joy in everyday rituals and final reflections   **** Release details for the NEW BOOK.   Get your copy of Personal Socrates: Better Questions, Better Life   Connect with Marc >>> Website | LinkedIn | Instagram |   Drop a review and let me know what resonates with you about the show! Thanks as always for listening and have the best day yet! * A special thanks to MONOS, our official travel partner for Behind the Human! Use MONOSBTH10 at check-out for savings on your next purchase. ✈️ * Special props 👇 Music: Clouds - Joakim Karud See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.