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Before The Commit
Danny Gershman, Dustin Hilgaertner
13 episodes
1 week ago
🧠 Before The Commit: What happens before code is written matters more than ever. Join engineers from SC2S, C2S, and secure DoD factories as they explore AI-powered dev, shifting threat surfaces, and real-world workflows. No hype, no hot takes — just honest, tactical insight for leaders who know that pre-commit is too late. Hosted live by Danny Gershman & Dustin Hilgaertner. Secure or Sus? Let’s find out.
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🧠 Before The Commit: What happens before code is written matters more than ever. Join engineers from SC2S, C2S, and secure DoD factories as they explore AI-powered dev, shifting threat surfaces, and real-world workflows. No hype, no hot takes — just honest, tactical insight for leaders who know that pre-commit is too late. Hosted live by Danny Gershman & Dustin Hilgaertner. Secure or Sus? Let’s find out.
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Episode 13: OpenAI Atlas
Before The Commit
53 minutes 44 seconds
1 week ago
Episode 13: OpenAI Atlas

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The episode kicked off with the news of Amazon's largest-ever corporate layoffs , with reports citing 16,000 workers and potentially up to 30,000 employees affected across various units like video games, groceries, HR, and devices. This comes as Amazon is increasing its investments in AI , with a senior vice president stating that AI is the "most transformative technology we've ever seen". The company aims to be organized "more leanly, with fewer layers and more ownership".

The hosts noted the public is linking these cuts to AI , even as some layoffs are attributed to scaling down the workforce hired during COVID. There is an ongoing debate about whether AI is directly causing job losses or simply disrupting the job market, particularly for more junior-level employees. This disruption is a potential source of "unrest". Amazon’s CEO, Andy Jassy, told staffers they'll need "fewer people doing some jobs... and more people doing other types of jobs" , suggesting a shift in required skills rather than just a reduction in headcount.

The "Tool of the Week" was a deeper look at the OpenAI Atlas web browser. Despite some initial "awkwardness" (like navigating away from a chat when clicking on new content ), the host found it incredibly useful and worth the paid subscription.

Atlas, which integrates an AI agent, excels at delegating tedious background tasks. For example, a salesperson could paste meeting notes into the browser and ask it to find relevant contacts in their LinkedIn Rolodex. The AI performs more than simple keyword searches, applying "natural language judgment" to curate a list.

The browser’s ultimate strategic value is its ability to navigate, click on buttons, and interact with the web. This capability opens the door for:

  • Automating e-commerce: Pulling a recipe and adding all necessary ingredients to an Instacart cart based on highly granular user preferences.

  • Life productivity: Helping with things like filling out a rental application.

The new AI-driven browsers introduce new cybersecurity threats. An attack was reported where the Omni bar (which is dual-purpose as a URL bar or a prompt ) could be tricked by a malformed URL into executing malicious instructions. These passive attacks lie in wait for an AI to process the malicious data.

In financial news, PayPal announced it’s working with OpenAI, adopting the Agentic Commerce Protocol (ACP) to build an instant checkout feature in ChatGPT. The hosts believe that for AI agents to safely buy things, there must be safeguards and a human-in-the-loop approval process. They predict that Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA) will become a mechanism for authorizing every incremental action, not just logging in, to maintain accountability.

The future of living with AI agents is one of delegation. Users will need to be better at precisely describing what they want , and the line of responsibility—whether a mistake is a "bug of the AI or... the user" —will become incredibly important in both personal and business settings.

The new way AI search engines work, by assembling answers from multiple sources, is shifting the game from Search Engine Optimization (SEO) to Generative or Answer Engine Optimization (GEO/AEO). Content creators are now focused on how to fuel the answer or be the answer.

The hosts expressed concern about the new monetization model. Unlike traditional search where ads and results are separate, they worry that AI companies might try to thread the needle by allowing ads or paid content to subtly influence the training data , thereby contaminating the results to favor certain vendors. Despite the monetization challenge with over 800 million non-paying ChatGPT users , the vast user base provides OpenAI with an invaluable source of data (a "moat") that no one else has.

Before The Commit
🧠 Before The Commit: What happens before code is written matters more than ever. Join engineers from SC2S, C2S, and secure DoD factories as they explore AI-powered dev, shifting threat surfaces, and real-world workflows. No hype, no hot takes — just honest, tactical insight for leaders who know that pre-commit is too late. Hosted live by Danny Gershman & Dustin Hilgaertner. Secure or Sus? Let’s find out.