In this episode, Enneagram master teacher and bestselling author Russ Hudson argues that humanity’s psychology and emotional maturity are lagging far behind our technology. He explains why we’re not ready for the radical changes AI will unleash, and how ancient wisdom traditions like the Enneagram can help us close that gap.

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro
0:52 Who is Russ Hudson?
1:38 What is the Enneagram? The nine points explained
10:40 How it differs from other personality systems
12:12 Ancient history and modern revival of the Enneagram
15:30 Russ’s early search for science and spirituality
18:15 Discovering George Gurdjieff and “mankind is asleep”
21:15 The neuroscience of presence: gut, heart, and head intelligence
23:30 Creating and validating the Riso-Hudson Enneagram test
29:05 Ancient roots, “deadly sins,” and developmental psychology
37:09 What it really means to be present
42:06 Traps that pull us out of presence
45:11 Humility, virtues, and avoiding spiritual bypassing
49:07 How Russ’s own type shapes his daily practice
53:05 Using the Enneagram as a feedback loop
57:18 GPT-5 release and AI’s impact on humanity
1:04:12 Can AI become a personal growth coach?
1:05:10 Why you can’t do the inner work alone
1:11:12 Building presence-based communities
1:21:24 How the Enneagram can guide us through massive change
1:35:28 Presence as a skill for uncertain times
1:42:20 Final thoughts on awakening and human potentiall