Anna Kazlauskas discusses her path from traditional finance to the world of decentralized AI. She describes what it’s like building Vana, a platform that lets people own their data and contribute it to AI models, and explains why tokenomics plays an important role in their setup. Anna also discusses the challenges of starting a Web3 company, including how important it is to hire people who share the same mission. She dives into the AI data shortage and how Vana tackles this with decentralized data ownership and data DAOs. Other key topics include the difference between data DAOs, trusts, and unions, why private data is valuable, and lessons from projects like the Reddit Data DAO. This episode has a lot to offer for anyone interested in the future of AI, data ownership, and building in Web3. Listen to Anna's founder journey with hosts Kenzi Wang, Sachi Kamiya and Diksha Dutta.