Shame is heavy—and most of us carry more of it than we realize. Therapist and author Dr. Zoe Shaw joins me to unpack complex shame and share what it really takes to heal, reclaim your worth, and show up fully as yourself. Therapist and author Dr. Zoe Shaw introduces the concept of complex shame—a deeper, more persistent form of shame that can’t be erased with outside compassion alone. Dr. Zoe opens up about her own story of teenage pregnancy, being sent away to a maternity home, and the years of overachievement she used to mask her pain. She explains how complex shame develops, the many ways it shows up—racial, generational, religious, body, gender—and why real healing requires self-compassion, accountability, and forgiveness. At the heart of her message: you are worthy to show up exactly as you are. ✨ In this episode, we cover:The difference between “simple” shame and complex shameDr. Zoe’s personal journey through secrecy, grief, and overachievementThe many forms of shame and how to recognize themWhy self-compassion is non-negotiable for healingTools for forgiveness and rewriting your storyHow releasing shame creates freedom, authenticity, and hope 📌 Resources & LinksConnect with Dr. Zoe: drzoeshaw.com | @drzoeshawCLICK HERE to buy her book Stronger in Difficult PlacesRecommended read: Black Woman Grief by Natasha Smith 💌 If this conversation resonated, join my Substack community for reflections, resources, and behind-the-scenes insights. We’re supporting St Jude’s- head over to www.stjude.org/bewellsis right now and sign up to be a monthly donor. Together, we can make a real impact. Want to get in touch? Maybe you want to hear from a certain guest or have a recommendation for On My Radar? Get in touch at hello@editaud.io with Be Well Sis in the subject line! Have you’re on Not Well, Sis rant to contribute? Click here to send it into the show! Be Well, Sis is hosted by Dr Cassandre Dunbar. The show is edited, mixed and produced by Megan Hayward. Our Production Manager is Kathleen Speckert. Be Well, Sis is an editaudio collaboration. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.